Jeremy at Eidetic Illuminations has a fantastic post up asking, "Are Cultures Objects?". He's raising some great questions about the efficacy of the Object-Oriented project. I want to touch briefly on a few issues he raises:
I think Jeremy pins down exactly what needs to be thought about when he asked, “…at what point can a set of relations be said to have turned into an object?” This is very important because the language he used actually offers a way forward. He asked ‘at what point’? – and the answer is: precisely at the point something becomes more rather than less differentiated from its background context.
But there’s the rub! No-thing is ever completely separate or differentiated from its context. Both Einstein and quantum physics argue exactly this. Things, or objects, are only ever relatively differentiated from the ecology within which they emerge. All things depend (or interdepend) on other things. But, as Bryant pointed out, not all things interdepend (my word) on other things at the same time. It is not that all things are directly related to each other, but that all things exist under certain circumstances and depend upon particular conditions and background relations. And, to return, it is the degree to which any coalesced assemblage becomes relatively differentiated from the life-conditions (form of life) within which it always partakes and co-creates that it can be said to be an ‘object’ unto itself.
Think embryos. Within the matrix of a womb an embryo can be seen to be an ‘object’ (or, rather, an assemblage) relatively distinct from its mother. But should you remove that embryo from its life-conditions (from the womb) it would certainly perish and de-assemble. Object-assemblages simply cannot be ‘removed’ from the matrix of reality, and any suggestion that ‘objects’ somehow have some special ontological status outside the relational contexts in which they dwell is not telling the whole-story. So unlike embryos that become foetuses and eventually leave the matrix of their mothers, WE cannot leave the womb of materiality and our deeply ecological reality – we depend on it. Just like every other object-assemblage that actually exists.
For me, somewhat following DeLanda (and he following Deleuze), all ‘objects’ are assemblages. Some assemblages are more ‘loose’ and some are more stable, but all such beasts always exist in relation. I think, contra Bogost and Morton, the concept of an assemblage can do more ‘work’ than the term object – at least the way DeLanda uses it – because ‘assemblage’ captures the simultaneous-ness of conjunctive and disjunctive relations and of whole/parts (mereology). It’s a more indicative term.
So at various points things either move towards becoming more rather than less of an object, or they disassemble, or deterritorialize, and become less of an object. Therefore, there must be certain “thresholds” (or certain “tipping points”) where assemblages ostensibly become individuals rather than continue to exist as a) multiplicities, or b) hybrid transgressors. And of course there are assemblage-things that hover ‘in between’ being an individual and a multiplicity (or ‘society’), such as certain organisms or ant colonies.
It is a matter of degree.
This thresholding of immanent reality is why it is more important, in my view, to always investigate the world of things in their particulars (with all their onto-specific idiosyncrasies). To truly respect the “strange mereology” of the world-itself (rather than of OOO), we have to respect the specific determining properties and characteristics of each and every situation or assemblage. [Isn’t this also exactly what ethnography teaches us about understanding the local?]
And this, incidentally, is for me the exact difference between ontography and ontology. Ontography speculatively maps particulars, while ontology speculatively abstracts generalities. Both are useful , but ontography must remain fundamental, in a way that mirrors how ethnography is more fundamental than ethnology.
With regards to culture, I have all but abandoned that concept myself - because, as you, Max and many others have pointed out, there are so many connotations at play with that term. ‘Is culture an object?’ Depends on what you are willing to objectify.
Certainly there are cultural objects. For example, a totem pole. A totem pole is a tree that has been transformed by humans and inscribed with symbolic meanings. Thus, the totem pole is an object-assemblage of wood, paint and symbolic representation which combine in such a way as to create a new ‘culturally’ recognizable object. But the question then becomes ‘what is the relationship of the totem pole to various other elements (object-assemblages)’?
Is there enough of a relationship between human beings, language, totem-poles (artifacts) and other objects that we can say that its assembly is itself an object? Has a particular crowd of distributed objects intensified its relations enough to cross the ‘threshold’ of multiplicity and become a unity? In what way does "it" act as an object? And the only way we judge that is relative to the context in which these things occur, and relative to the specific affects (capacities and powers) expressed by all the immanent and coalesced properties involved.
That is to say, we must do ontography rather than ontology to determine the specific properties and affect dynamics (my term) occurring in any particular context.
So, the problem I have with considering culture an ‘object’, or any given social milieu a distinct ‘society’, is that it seems to objectify situations involving intricately differentiated phenomena with amazingly diffuse relationships. Human populations exist among so much complexity that to draw boundaries around too wide a gathering of people, places and things is ‘imagine’ too much. At best, cultures are loose assemblages and not, in my opinion, intensive OR extensive enough to be ‘objects’ per se.
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Thanks for your comments, Michael, I appreciate your insights. I think you're exactly right here. I like some of the OOO approach, but a lot of what I like I think can be (and often is) framed more effectively in relationist vocabulary.
I agree that it's a matter of degree, and I might be able to accept a spectrum of objects with varying levels of internal interdependence. I'm not sure how that would look, and I think it would break some of OOO's rules. Again, relationist vocabulary seems to do better here, since they can talk about different kinds of relations and different degrees of interdependence. I'm not sure how OOO works with that. Maybe Levi or Graham will offer some thoughts.
I think I fall short of describing cultures as objects in my post, though, Levi seemed to agree with most of what I said. He has his own post on it in which he talks about allopoietic and autopoietic objects and such - I'm not familiar enough with the terms to really figure it out at the moment. I like the term assemblages here too, and Latour's associations. In fact, I think the same analysis applies to Culture and the Cultural that Latour applies to the Social - best to explain in detail and "multiply the mediators" than to prematurely close things off whether you think of it as an object or not.
On a practical note, if I were to go to the AAA conference this Fall and present on the Shoshone culture here in NV as an object, I think I'd cause myself all kinds of problems. Empirically it's not justifiable, and it wouldn't hold up to the myriad critiques I'd get from constructivists and critical anthropologists. I could, however, talk about it as an assemblage, perhaps, and discuss the processes and relations that are involved. At least among some anthropologists. :)
Really, I'm not concerned about coming to a point where I can honestly call myself a Process-Relational Ontologist, or an Object-Oriented Ontologist, or anything else. I will continue to try to understand all of these theories, to borrow ideas from them, and to attempt to figure out how they apply to my discipline and my work.
Michael, I'm not sure my last comment went through - if not I'll try to recompose it tomorrow. But here's something I meant to say, but forgot.
OOO's "strange mereology" seems to me to require that the components that make up an object are so interdependent that they are able to "close off" to become a new object. But then, once that happens, these components, which were once intricately interdependent, have to become so independent that they can remove themselves from the object without affecting its integrity. I understand Levi's example that people come in and out of cultures, and such, but the concept seems to be self-contradictory. Then again, I couldn't tell you how PRO deals with this either - maybe they don't have to.
Interesting post. I liked your mention of ontography vs ontology. I'd like to hear more, see how that develops.
I'm curious about your thoughts on dynamic mapping, and two versus three or four dimensional mapping. Is it possible to dynamically map processes? I'm finding two dimensional network maps quite frustrating, and three d maps or grids to not be very fruitful.
Curious what visual models, if any, you use to help understand or see assemblages, flows, lines, etc.
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@Jeremy,
I agree entirely on everything you said here.
And i think you correctly identify (again) one of the main issues: vocabulary. Any ontology worth the paper it gets printed on must include a sensitivity to relationality, and have deep appreciation of interconnectedness. As the saying goes, 'on a large enough time scale everything is a blur'. The flux and flow of the kosmos, although not the whole story, is a major theme.
I like how you put this: "... a spectrum of objects with varying levels of internal interdependence. " That is exactly how I see it. The universe is a differentially distributed field of relation AND organization - generating a wide spectrum of entities, flows, networks, objects, etc.
Your also write, "I think the same analysis applies to Culture and the Cultural that Latour applies to the Social - best to explain in detail and "multiply the mediators" than to prematurely close things off..."
Indeed. And from another angle, I would say not all differences that make a difference are 'objects'...
As for the AAA scenario, i think you are right, they'd laugh you out of the building. As you say, the thesis that cultures or social systems are 'objects' is just not empirically justifiable - as the associations are just not strong enough to be considered closed off.
In this vein, I also think the OOO folk are also making a number of claims that are not empirically justifiable.
But as you say,
"I will continue to try to understand all of these theories, to borrow ideas from them, and to attempt to figure out how they apply to my discipline and my work."
Couldn't have said it better myself...
@Jeremy,
You write, "...the concept seems to be self-contradictory." Exactly. I think Harman is a little more guilty of this than Bryant - with Harman positing 'radical withdrawal', and Bryant skirting the issue (in my opinion) with his ghostly 'virtual being'.
The way I resolve it is by saying that object-assemblages have depth. Object-assemblages 'withdraw' to the extent that they are organized 'internally' - and to the extent that they have emerged 'out of' or 'up from' (cf. Heidegger's verfallen) their background conditions. The 'deeper' or more complex an assemblage is the more it can be said to have withdrawn into itself and become, in a sense, self-attracting, or actualized.
I think the mereology of the world is strange enough that we might think about paying more attention to it than building abstracted secondary models of it...
GREG: Interesting post. I liked your mention of ontography vs ontology. I'd like to hear more, see how that develops.
MICHAEL: Thanks Greg. If you stay tuned you will here a lot more about the difference between ontography and ontology, as this distinction is fundamental to my approach. I have a draft paper (or book chapter) called "Ontology Beyond Metaphysics" that lays out my bare bones position on the topic. I will be posting bits and pieces of it now and then, but the punchline is that speculative thinking is only useful when it is coupled with a post-metaphysical ontography. Such a project rejects superfluous abstraction and refuses metaphysical assertions, in favor a richer, more embodied engagement with the world. The resultant mutation might look a lot like some sort of 'dark' ecological pragmatism. But i'm still working it through.
GREG: I'm curious about your thoughts on dynamic mapping, and two versus three or four dimensional mapping. Is it possible to dynamically map processes? I'm finding two dimensional network maps quite frustrating, and three d maps or grids to not be very fruitful.
MICHAEL: Interesting question. I was asked by a colleague just last week what I would do differently in my education given what I know now, and my answer was 'not much', except I would have gone deeper into 'Geographical Information Systems'(GIS). I think there are many ways to better visually map the world, and GIS is a great place to start. You can work with 3 or more dimensions, with fascinating overlays of statistical or other informational data.
GREG: Curious what visual models, if any, you use to help understand or see assemblages, flows, lines, etc.
MICHAEL: For years i worked on something i called 'Matrix Analytics'. The spatial metaphor was of a 4 dimensional grid that could be used to map out (analytically trace) the interconnections and complexity of any given situation or niche on multiple scales. It had it's strong points, And I still use it in my consulting work.
I also like topographical images, attractors, and pretty much any dynamical representation that expresses the fluid and complex nature of things.
But I have also moved beyond that kind of mapping. Because the 'map is never the territory', I'm now more interested in directly engaging the 'territory'. That is to say, my interest is in experiences and engagements that directly attend to particular mix and mangle of specific flows, relations and assemblages. So the best visual, for me, would be actual digital imaging of real-time events. To the things-themselves no?
Thanks for stopping by!
Thanks to Jeremy and Michael both for articulating this. I have been thinking similar lines (sorites arguments) and I rather like the gestalt-ish approach here.
Thinking a little bit further along these lines--the question of "at what point" does a series of tiny (even infinitesimal) changes or accumulations turn into an object in its own right-- leads me to think of Berkeley, not the ultra-idealist Berkeley, but Berkeley the theoretician of perception. His inquiries into the smallest possible units of perception almost anticipate quantum physics (insofar as here too reality is seen as coming in discrete segments, planck-scale). How does something emerge out of the flux, and how many small shifts make a new object? (badiou might say: when does the "count-as-one" get invoked--though I recall you saying you don't care for him, Michael.) Some of this is explored by, or anyway is related to, Maimon in his discussion in the Essay on Transcendental Philosophy that was being read over at Perverse Egalitarianism. The relevant chapter discussion is this one, if you are interested.
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