In relation to my recent obsessing on issues of withdrawal in object-oriented ontologies André Ling of Intra-Being is wondering if I'm getting it all wrong about Tim Morton's notion of causality (here). As André writes, "just wondering where Morton says that objects do not encounter each other and have real effects upon each other?"
I think André’s question is a good one. Although I have enormous respect for Tim Morton’s project and general trajectory, I’m not sure I can answer André question precisely if only because I often find myself quite confused by Tim’s version of ‘withdrawal’ (see here). In fact I’m feeling like I’d be groping in the dark even discussing Tim’s position on this issue at all. I still need to read his latest book. But for the sake of exploration let me try to articulate a few ideas with regards to André‘s challenge.
The initial problem I run in to is that just when I think Tim is talking about direct causality and how things have deep impacts on other things, in a more or less scientific sense, he shifts and starts talking about causation as primarily “aesthetic” – in the sense that all things only ever encounter the “qualities” of other things, and not the “essence” of the thing-themselves. I don’t understand how he can split these aspects without suggesting that rocks encounter other rocks phenomenologically? How exactly does a hammer absolutely withdraw from a nail viz. the nail only ever encountering the hammer’s qualities? Where are those floating “qualities” registered if not in the “mind” of the nail? And why is all of this not still direct? The enactment of 'quality' is particular to entities with the capacity for phenomenal experience. What are the mechanisms involved in hammer phenomenology? If someone could answer those questions I would be in their debt.
As just one example take the following from chapter one of Realist Magic:
“Withdrawn doesn’t mean hard to find or even impossible to find yet still capable of being visualized or mapped or plotted. Withdrawn doesn’t mean spatially, or materially or temporally hidden yet capable of being found, if only in theory. Withdrawn means beyond any kind of access, any kind of perception or map or plot or test or extrapolation.” (Morton 2013)
Beyond any kind of access? Herein lies multiple dilemmas I believe.
As a bit of an aside about 'structural access/relation', I should mention the work done by Ladyman and Ross (2009) in this regard. As Ladyman and Ross forcefully argue there are "real patterns" that have access to us, intervene upon and sometimes afford our powers of operation, and of which we are forced to work with (adapt/cope) in ways in excess of our representations of them. “From the metaphysical point of view, what exists are just real patterns” (p.121). And these real patters are invariant forces that directly impinge upon the being of other 'individuals' as patterned activities. “Individual things, then, are constructs built for second-best tracking of real patterns” (p.242), or “epistemological book-keeping devices” (p. 240). A key theme in their work is the dismissal of ‘neo-scholastic’ metaphysics and the promotion of ‘naturalised metaphysics’.
So I think it is important to think about just how assemblages (objects) not only have have access to each other's substantial being, but how the operational efficacy of things is interdependent upon multi-modal access between and among a multitude of materials and complexes, creating distributed fields of affordances and possibility. Reality is a mingled and uncanny mesh.
But to return to the point, although I don’t think Morton ever says that things don’t effect each other – at least he never explicitly says this - I wonder if his expressed adherence to Harman’s ontology doesn’t somehow lead to some serious contradictions in this regard? My working thesis is that I either don’t understand Morton’s approach well enough yet (very probable) or there are some unacknowledged contradictions and logical problems within the discourse. And I just want us to be clear about what we are being asked to assume in order to integrate an ontology of withdrawal with claims (coming from science and Tim himself) that humans have enough access to the world to know something about how the world actually works (realism?) to exist effectively within it.
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I might very well be wrong here but... I get the sense that for Morton the assertion that 'Reality is mingled and uncanny mesh' is mistaken. The mingling and meshing is a property of the sampling effect of object's interactions in the aesthetic domain- a domain I think is derivative of but not coexistensive with objects.
Causation seems to be something like the transcendental conditions of possibility for the emergence of objects and is akin to codependent arising in Buddhism. Causation is an illusion and a non-illusion, it is magical and mysterious, because it is 'empty' (shunyata).
If I'm right about this, and I'm in no way certain that I am, then the problem is really about what it is that is casually interacting. Objects as samples of other objects; objects as interpretations of other objects; sensuous appearances. These 'hermeneutical objects' seem to be the objects of causation, and causation seems to be a hermeneutic labour undertaken by objects of other objects.
Like I say, I could be absolutely wrong (and I'm sure I probably am) but nevertheless that's what I'm getting from it all. The disagreement with Morton seems to be over whether objects are corporeal, carnal, and material or whether they are a kind of spectral, hermeneutic circle of every other existing object.
Yes! pratītyasamutpāda, exactly. But I don't agree exactly how Tim presents shunyata.
You write: "The disagreement with Morton seems to be over whether objects are corporeal, carnal, and material or whether they are a kind of spectral, hermeneutic circle of every other existing object."
And I think that is exactly right. It is about the panpsychism at the core of OOO (excluding Levi Bryant). I think Harman offers a hyper-correlationism unto idealism/panpsychism that obscures onto-specificity, and in particular the messy, fuzzy, interpenetrated, chaismic, folded, consistent, intra-dependent, simultaneity of immanent transcorporeality. The consequences of this obscuration is a proliferation of metaphysical fancy (theory for theory sake) and a disconnect with scientific knowledge and ecological sensitivity in existential matters and politics.
Do you mean you disagree with my presentation of Tim's concept of 'shunyata' or with his own?
i don't like how Tim frames shunyata. Your presentation seems well enough.
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