I am very surprised by a recent post from Graham Harman responding to my comments about his four-fold structure of objects. I was surprised in two ways: first, that Harman even cares what I think or post. In terms of both learned philosophy and sophistication Harman is much more advanced than I probably will ever be. I consider my strain of thinking as “feral philosophy” - happening in relation to traditional philosophical concepts but not within it. My philosophy is untamed, rootless and often nomadic. Thus, by no means am I an expert on the kinds of issues Graham seems to be pursuing.
Secondly, I was surprised, especially upon re-reading my original awkward comments, with how much restraint Graham showed in his response. Most of his comments were fair and probably fairly accurate. I truly appreciate that. For me this shows that Graham truly is making the effort to consider me as a legitimate interlocutor. That is really generous of him. And I think Graham deserves all the credit for that.
But I also want to respond more directly to his comments:
1. As Graham notes, that post wasn’t really a critique. I advanced no arguments whatsoever. The post was merely meant to draw attention to what he was saying at this point about how we might go about interpreting his latest framework. I do plan on pulling together all my thoughts on the notion of “withdrawal” and Graham’s take on causality, but that won’t happen until things calm down a bit with my other paid projects. Graham suggests that if I have an alternative I should offer it up. He’s right. Stay tuned Graham.
2. My comments were certainly not directed at Graham, if only because it would never have occurred to me that he would read my blog. Now that I know Graham might be open to reading my posts I will certainly be more respectful of that.
3. As for not reading Tool-Being, that is a great point. I do have a copy of said book somewhere in the stacks but I won’t get to that until the end of the year at the earliest. The thing is though, I don’t feel it is necessary for me to get into that book in order to disagree with Graham about the ‘structure’ of object-encounters. My argument with Graham’s formulation revolves, for me, around empirical issues and not metaphysical issues, and because I’m not in the game of ‘proving’ anyone wrong I therefore feel no obligation at this point to track down the specifics of his argument. My only contention at this stage is that his ‘four-fold’ framework doesn’t resonate with me and is unconvincing (to me).
4. My main hang-up is the question of whether we encounter objects more or less directly or not. Do we sensually-physically encounter other things, and then go about ‘translating’ them according to our own specific receptive properties, or we don’t. And if we don’t, what is the nature of this unbridgeable gap? What properties obtain within objects and what relations exist between things that prevent the kind of creatures we are from encountering objects more or less directly?
Here was what I wrote re: my current stance on the issue of withdrawal and encounters from the original post:
If we really take seriously our deep embeddedness in the world, and what can be known about ‘objects’, we find that we do in fact encounter things ‘directly’ viz. our actual properties and the actual properties of objects, but not in their entirety. Encounters between things are direct but partial – according the onto-specificity (uniqueness) of any particular ‘object’ as a coalesced and organized assemblage (and their affective and receptive properties). And it is the interactive matrix of the processual linkages and maintenance relations of things in situ that determine what effects and affects are generated.
Again, there is a lot of work to be done to make such a position intelligible or formulate an argument, but the gist is simply this: human-objects, like all real objects, are intimately entwined with the world - from quanta to cellular activity to armed combat – and as such are never too far away from any other actual objects.
In this sense, as objects we encounter other objects through the immanent actualities that constitute what we specifically are. These “immanent actualities” are the very properties that constitute any particular entity. The endo-properties of an object are actually a plurality which coalesces (or individuates) as an emergent entity. But here’s the kicker: the plurality of properties coalesced are themselves always already emergent from the same ground of being from which all reality comes – including us. And this is why objects are never totally withdrawn. All objects are primordial relatives: we relate to each other (encounter each other) through the force and structure our shared being-ness.
Put another way, all tangible ‘objects’ are assemblages and form-ations of material-energetic properties. These assemblages ‘hang together’ insofar as the extensive and intensive properties that coalesce are maintained. And it is this relative (and relational) in situ integrity of particular things that gives them their “object-ness”. And because we only ever encounter tangible objects within the same field of material-energetic activity from which we ourselves come, all encounters can be considered direct but partial. “Direct” in that objects collide or interact via properties derived from the same source of actuality (the cosmos), but “partial” because the organization of properties particular to specific entities (their onto-specificity) only ever encounters other objects via their particular affective and receptive capacities.
Of course, this is all really abstract and I would want to give some very concrete examples that demonstrate the efficacy of my onto-story but I will leave that for another time, as I’m still not too sure Graham is interested in going down the rabbit hole with me.
i) Framing all the processes and causal relations that come into play between objects when they encounter each other in terms of “objects vs. qualities” is very simplistic indeed (especially when we are talking about how sentient beings perceive other objects). There are many more variables and relations that need to be understood and tracked in order for us to ‘model’ interactions between things - from quantum entanglement to neurocognitive functions to nerve signals and cell receptors to crystalline micro-particles in metal to the thermodynamics of hurricanes. The minutia of interacting assemblages and ‘objects’ need to be understood if we are going to be able to say anything relevant about real-world things. Even Graham’s four-fold structure with ten possible links doesn’t adequately map the onto-idiosyncrasies and interactions between objects.
ii) It is the ‘simplicity’ of philosophical models based on traditional lines of thought (such as Husserl’s) that is exactly the type of “strait-jacket” I wish Graham would toss out. I think Graham is a great thinker and an exceptional prose stylist but is currently working with conceptual ‘tools’ made to work within obsolete philosophical traditions. Academic philosophers have a disciplinary (and promotional) stake in perpetuating such concepts and distinctions, but with what effect? The stunting of innovations in semantic reasoning? We suffered a thousand years with Aristotle’s “science” and hundreds of years of Descartes’ dualism – so why keep digging up dead bodies? Why metaphysics? And why pre-scientific metaphysics to boot? Obviously I follow “eliminative” thinking here, but my point is that philosophy has much more to offer than ‘local’ discourses and internal argumentation. [note: I would point the interested reader to George Lakoff’s Philosophy in the Flesh for a potential way forward]
6. Which brings me to Graham’s (very fair) question about my so-called issues with academic philosophers in general. Graham writes,
Is his point that anyone accepting a philosophy-related post in a university is thereby automatically enslaved to some sort of traditional philosophical logic? In that case, both Deleuze and Derrida are “academic philosophers” as well, and I would like to see if Michael finds the same dreary academic blinders on them. Not to mention Kant, Hegel, and the like.
That is a great question. And I think I have a simple answer: no. I do not think that anyone accepting a philosophy-related post in a university is “automatically enslaved to some sort of traditional philosophical logic”. Deleuze and Derrida are great examples. They bucked convention and were conceptual innovators. Their interest was in ‘mutating’ our thinking and offering new lines of reasoning. Cool stuff.
But I do not believe it is an all-or-nothing situation. I think academic philosophers are a mixed-bag. If anything, it is the institutions of academia (with curriculums and departmental specialities) that perpetuate the ‘traditional philosophical logics’. And this is not a bad thing either. We need scholarship and pedagogy and I think the Western philosophical tradition should be retained. But, and this is my key point, it also needs to be surpassed not supplemented. Philosopher’s, in my opinion, might do well to adopt a post-metaphysical stance and rebel against (not ignore) traditional notions about how the world works.
So, my issue is not with where a person works, but what concepts they deploy and what intellectual projects they are involved with. An academic’s project can be more or less committed to conventional philosophical practices and arguments, and more or less involved in the deployment of traditional conceptual schemas. It is a matter of degree.
Take for example Graham’s OOP project. It is fantastic that he is compelling people to take ‘realist’ positions more seriously. That is an important project. That is worth doing. But why continue to deploy Husserl’s distinctions? Hasn’t cognitive science, for example, offered a more compelling and empirical account of perception? This is why I like what Gary Williams is doing. He is taking cognitive science and Heidegger and trying to advance the insights of both – but in a rigorous and methodological way.
10 comments:
Michael,
First, I really look forward to your fleshing these thoughts out as you indicate in your "stay tuned."
As to these notes here, I'm going to go out on a limb here and risk a guess as to Harman's possible stance, as an exercise in seeing how far I "get" what he's up to. When you say, "human-objects, like all real objects, are intimately entwined with the world - from quanta to cellular activity to armed combat," or again that the "kicker" is that "the plurality of properties coalesced are themselves always already emergent from the same ground of being from which all reality comes – including us," my immediate (and corrigible) reaction is that Harman can say, "yes, indeed." Why? Because the sensual object is indeed just this rush to intimacy, if you like, hastening to meet us, no questions asked. The tension between meeting and not-meeting is in one sense not at all a split between any two objects, but between an object and itself. I think this is a potentially fruitful and in any case remarkably interesting direction for gedankenexperiment. I am not sure I believe it (and I am ready to be shown I haven't even understood it). But if I'm right, it forces a modification of your critique. If I'm reading you right, you are saying that the encounter (a word which, you may know, is dear to me as a Levinasian) is always "partial"; but this term has a certain quantitative connotation which I think Harman wants to eschew. It isn't about missing some portion of the object, but an always-hidden aspect. Even "aspect" may be too weak for what he has in mind.
Good to see that your pathetic sucking up to Harman (unlike your more honest stand against Levi Bryant's hysterical misunderstandings) paid off - he likes you now, even if he's still tsk-tsking you for not realizing how harsh you sound when you awkwardly attempt to criticize his awesomeness.
As for him caring what you have to say, of course he does - how else is he going to protect his good name if not by randomly attacking anyone and everyone who dares to misunderstand him?
SCHOLIAST: Michael, First, I really look forward to your fleshing these thoughts out as you indicate in your "stay tuned."
MICHAEL: Thanks for the encouragement, I’m trying to juggle a thousand double-edged swords right now and I am getting behind on my posts (I haven’t forgot your Jeremy I promise!). I have an essay in the works that will address my entire take on the OOO business. Maybe I can con one of the online journals to publish it??? In the meantime I hope to occasionally post on the topic.
SCHOLIAST: As to these notes here, I'm going to go out on a limb here and risk a guess as to Harman's possible stance, as an exercise in seeing how far I "get" what he's up to. When you say, "human-objects, like all real objects, are intimately entwined with the world - from quanta to cellular activity to armed combat," or again that the "kicker" is that "the plurality of properties coalesced are themselves always already emergent from the same ground of being from which all reality comes – including us," my immediate (and corrigible) reaction is that Harman can say, "yes, indeed." Why? Because the sensual object is indeed just this rush to intimacy, if you like, hastening to meet us, no questions asked. The tension between meeting and not-meeting is in one sense not at all a split between any two objects, but between an object and itself.
MICHAEL: This is interesting. I’m not sure I follow, but are you saying that the sensual object is kinda like the extension of an object’s properties as they are received by another perceiving object? If so, my only question would then be ‘so then why posit the internal split between an object and its qualities? What extra information does it give us about objects?’ I think the terminology is confusing and obscures how actual things interact in the world. There is a direct causal link between objects as assembled properties – without a mediating sensual realm acting as a buffer between two radically withdrawn objects. Sensuality takes place BOTH between and within specific objects.
But I’m not sure I follow what you are trying to say here.
For me, objects are coalesced properties (assemblages) maintained by contingent relations, and therefore everything that exists within and arises from any particular object – including its expressions, powers, potencies and affects - are features of an object’s specifically assembled properties. Thus, any subsequent encounter between objects can be characterized as a mingling of properties between particular assemblages. And in the case of a perceptual entity, the entity’s properties include species-specific perceptual capacities that need to be specified in order to account for exactly how that being encounters any other particular object. A toad does not encounter a rock they same way a rock encounters a toad. And a toad doesn’t encounter another toad the same way a rock encounters another rock. Encounters are contingent and they are specific to the kinds of things encountering and being encountered.
SCHOLIAST: I think this is a potentially fruitful and in any case remarkably interesting direction for gedankenexperiment. I am not sure I believe it (and I am ready to be shown I haven't even understood it). But if I'm right, it forces a modification of your critique. If I'm reading you right, you are saying that the encounter (a word which, you may know, is dear to me as a Levinasian) is always "partial"; but this term has a certain quantitative connotation which I think Harman wants to eschew. It isn't about missing some portion of the object, but an always-hidden aspect. Even "aspect" may be too weak for what he has in mind.
MICHAEL: I’m saying that encounters of every kind are direct and partial at the same time. Direct in that encounters happen between actual things with definite properties, and are of the world in the same way we are of the world, and partial because two objects ‘meet’ or ‘touch’ at specific points and in entity-specific (onto-specific) ways – ways that never fully perceive each other in their entirety. This “partiality” of all encounters is what might lead Graham to conclude that objects ‘withdraw’ from each other (which in that sense I agree that they do), but never totally because of the ‘directness’ (or intimacy) of encounters that occur between actual (embodied) beings.
I hope to elaborate more on this, and with concrete examples, but this is basically where I am at with these issues right now.
Anon,
Do you think my praise for Graham's efforts was a bit too much? Hmmm. Perhaps I did pour it on a bit thick - if only to demonstrate a lack of any real hostility towards him as a person or his work generally.
And I meant what I said. He does have a good philosophical mind, he is a great prose stylist and he did restrain himself from lashing out at me (for the most part). So why not acknowledge the good I see in this regard? I'm not out here to make casual enemies.
However, as you might be able to discern from my later responding points, I do have serious disagreements with his ontology. That hasn't changed.
And, at the risk of further "sucking up", he does have a valid point: I do come on a bit strong. This is true online and it is certainly true in person. Some people dig it, some people don't. I grew up in a context where there would be much more likelihood that a rap battle would break out than a philosophical debate. And, as previously noted, i have a fighter's instinct not a professor's savvy. That's just how I be.
I know you have serious issues with Graham and Levi, but I don't need or want the drama. I'll stand up for myself when need be, but I'm also not going to pick fights with harmless strangers.
Michael, I shan't try to guess at what Harman (or Bryant or etc etc) would say (as I was earlier), but as for me: my present tentative stance is that, insofar as generation & corruption (as Aristotle wd say) are concerned, objects more or less are their properties. (I realize that this "more or less" is mealy-mouthed-- it's because I am not certain about the precise links between object, property, and relation; but I am strongly drawn to the Buddhist avowal acc. to which everything that arises co-arises.) Thus, isofar as the temporal order goes, I probably agree with you. However, there's another aspect, which I (rather unfashionably, I am sure) think of as a God's-eye-view, a view-from-nowhere, an Eternal aspect, in which things do (as it were) "withdraw". Because I see this in terms of eternity/time, I think I cannot offer quite the same "weird causality" that Harman suggests. I spell a little of this out here, but that post too (you've probably seen it) is quite schematic. So, "what is added?" What "additional information" is imparted by this scheme? And, of course, is it really needed, or is it just an epicycle? My answer--and here I am also speculating about Harman's motives, because this at least is what I felt/intuited when I read Guerrilla Metaphysics--is that one isn't trying to explain causality or even anything about objects in offering this account of objects' "withdrawal", but one needs this account to do justice to our intuition of the object as being exactly itself and no other object. I.e., I want to be able to say: this box of paints, this omelet, this mountain range, this work of Shakespeare. And if I push relationism so far with no counterpush in the direction of specificity, I am at a loss to say how there are specific things, because everything washes or fades into everything else. Now I note that this "counterpush" I speak of does not fully accomplish the job, because it does not explain how there are things, but rather stipulates that there are, and maintains this stipulation against the dissolving force of relationism. But then the question "why is there anything?" is, well, one of the hard ones, yes?
And now a few words by Loic Wacquant on Pierre Bourdieu:
Q. An important element of Bourdieu's work -- and the part that really drew blood -- was his sociological analysis of intellectuals.
A. For him, analysis of the inclinations and pitfalls making up academic life was an absolutely necessary thing. If you don't know what determines you -- how you are being shaped to think in a certain way because of your professional interests, your proclivities, your membership in a certain discipline, and so forth -- if you are blinded already by all these biases, what chance do you have to produce rigorous analyses of anything? That work made him controversial, and he was vigorously opposed by some of his peers, who did not want to be under the microscope. He demanded of academics that they be autonomous and rigorous, and at the same time engaged, that they bring back to the society the results of their labors -- and that they do so on the basis of intellectual rigor, not on the search for personal visibility or media fame.
SCHOLIAST: my present tentative stance is that, insofar as generation & corruption (as Aristotle wd say) are concerned, objects more or less are their properties. (I realize that this "more or less" is mealy-mouthed-- it's because I am not certain about the precise links between object, property, and relation; but I am strongly drawn to the Buddhist avowal acc. to which everything that arises co-arises.) Thus, isofar as the temporal order goes, I probably agree with you.
MICHAEL: I assume you are speaking about the notion of pratītyasamutpāda (Sanskrit: प्रतीत्यसमुत्पाद)? If so, that particular notion is certainly more in line with how I conceive the life of things. The Pali canon is a fantastic resource for finding ‘everyday’ examples of interdependent co-arising. “Objects” are individuals AND always in relation. It’s not the case that objects and relations need be mutually exclusive. They are deeply implicated.
At the same time, pratītyasamutpāda as it has traditionally been deployed is a bit too heavy on the relationalist end of things. I don’t think living in a relative cosmos means that we should give up on our respect or attentiveness of individualities or objects. Although, I’m not an enlightened beings so I could just be seeing things through ego-tinted, samsara-oriented lenses. (plus I know there is more nuance to what the Buddha allegedly taught than what I am implying – as ‘things’ do exist for mahayanaists, only they exist fundamentally in relation.)
The term I have been using lately is The Mesh, but I think I'm going to abandon that after a while as well. I came up with a term in my twenties - when I was studying Vedanta and Buddhist philosophy - that I was fairly fond of: co-locality; meaning all objects are both located in-themselves as an individuals AND in relation to the context in which they exist. All things are co-located in-themselves and in a context simultaneously.
With regards to properties and objects, I like how blunt you put it: objects are their properties. Being is always being some-thing – and things are always fully actual.
SCHOLIAST: However, there's another aspect, which I (rather unfashionably, I am sure) think of as a God's-eye-view, a view-from-nowhere, an Eternal aspect, in which things do (as it were) "withdraw". Because I see this in terms of eternity/time, I think I cannot offer quite the same "weird causality" that Harman suggests. I spell a little of this out here, but that post too (you've probably seen it) is quite schematic. So, "what is added?" What "additional information" is imparted by this scheme? And, of course, is it really needed, or is it just an epicycle?
MICHAEL: I say it’s all epicycle - but interesting. I can’t bring myself to think such things. I’m a bit of radical empiricist in the Jamesian sense, in that if it is not possible for me to have direct experience of something I have nothing to say about it. The notion of a “view-from-nowhere” seems to me incomprehensible. What, indeed, is added?
SCHOLIAST: My answer-and here I am also speculating about Harman's motives, because this at least is what I felt/intuited when I read Guerrilla Metaphysics--is that one isn't trying to explain causality or even anything about objects in offering this account of objects' "withdrawal", but one needs this account to do justice to our intuition of the object as being exactly itself and no other object. I.e., I want to be able to say: this box of paints, this omelet, this mountain range, this work of Shakespeare. And if I push relationism so far with no counterpush in the direction of specificity, I am at a loss to say how there are specific things, because everything washes or fades into everything else.
MICHAEL: If that is in fact what is meant by “withdrawal” then I would agree with exactly that. There does indeed need to be some “counterpush” to relationist views. But, as usual, I don’t think it is an either/or situation. Objects can still exist is relative independence AND be in constant relation. In other words, we don’t need to posit monads over flux – when reality is a much more mixed affair. Which, incidentally, is why I think a rigorous understanding of being-ness ('suchness' or tathāgata in Buddhism) can only be found in the details of complexity.
So, to re-frame, I certainly agree that objects “withdraw” from each other (as folds or singularities) but never totally – since every-thing that exists necessarily exists in relation.
And this is precisely what I mean to signify by my term onto-idiosyncrasy. All properties are part of the same reality, but specific properties do in fact come together as particular and affective contingent-entities (objects per se). We can indeed discern ‘waves’ on the ‘ocean’.
SCHOLIAST: Now I note that this "counterpush" I speak of does not fully accomplish the job, because it does not explain how there are things, but rather stipulates that they are, and maintains this stipulation against the dissolving force of relationism. But then the question "why is there anything?" is, well, one of the hard ones, yes?
MICHAEL: I think recognizing the need for this counter-push is a beginning, because the presence of real objects is undeniable – there is, as Jane Bennett argues, “thing-power”. But to understand the life and power of things we need to understand (as far as humanly possible) the details – the specificity of beings.
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